From milena at sirma.bg Tue Oct 6 07:17:07 2009 From: milena at sirma.bg (Milena Yankova-Doseva) Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2009 14:17:07 +0300 Subject: [Kim-discussion] api question In-Reply-To: <4A4345DB.5030401@sirma.bg> References: <4A4345DB.5030401@sirma.bg> Message-ID: <025001ca4676$8a2e5d20$9e8b1760$@bg> Hi, My question may be stupid but what's the difference between - SemanticRepositoryAPI. isSubClassOf(..) and - TaxonomyAPI.isSubClass(..) And which one should I use? Thanks Milena -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From mnozchev at sirma.bg Tue Oct 6 07:34:38 2009 From: mnozchev at sirma.bg (Marin Nozhchev) Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2009 14:34:38 +0300 Subject: [Kim-discussion] api question In-Reply-To: <025001ca4676$8a2e5d20$9e8b1760$@bg> References: <4A4345DB.5030401@sirma.bg> <025001ca4676$8a2e5d20$9e8b1760$@bg> Message-ID: <4ACB2B4E.7030305@sirma.bg> Hi, The question is not stupid at all. The javadoc for SemanticRepositoryAPI. isSubClassOf(..) is neither clear nor informative. SemanticRepositoryAPI. isSubClassOf(..) accepts String parameters, unlike TaxonomyAPI.isSubClass(..) which requires the more type-safe Sesame Resource interface. Using isSubClassOf(..) with string is particularly useful in the Java right-hand side of JAPE rules. There the lack of import statements makes creating URIImpl instances from string annotation features very cumbersome and thus using TaxonomyAPI.isSubClass(..) gets very prone to technical errors. Use SemanticRepositoryAPI. isSubClassOf(..) in JAPEs . Use TaxonomyAPI.isSubClass(..) in regular Java code. Hope this help, Marin Nozhchev (surname required for name disambiguation :) On 06.10.2009 ?. 14:17, Milena Yankova-Doseva wrote: > > Hi, > > My question may be stupid but what's the difference between > > - SemanticRepositoryAPI > . > isSubClassOf(..) and > > - TaxonomyAPI > .isSubClass(..) > > > And which one should I use? > > Thanks > > Milena > > > > _______________________________________________ > Kim-discussion mailing list > Kim-discussion at ontotext.com > http://ontotext.com/mailman/listinfo/kim-discussion > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From ipinkfloyd at inwind.it Mon Oct 19 06:30:11 2009 From: ipinkfloyd at inwind.it (ipinkfloyd at inwind.it) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 12:30:11 +0200 Subject: [Kim-discussion] Kim problem Message-ID: Hi all, thanks for the interest to the relation framework. I'd to know if the framework has been released. I have a problem with two jape rules. Rule: VenditoreSecondo ( ((PERSONA)|(PERSONACC)):vendesecondo ({Token.kind == word})* ({Token.string =="vende"}) ) --> :vendesecondo.Person ={rule = "VenditoreSecondo" , class="http://mia.ontologia#VENDITORE"} Rule: Compratore ( ((PERSONA)|(PERSONACC)):compra ({Token.kind == word})* ({Token.string =="compra"}|{Token.string =="acquista"}) ) --> :compra.Person ={rule = "Compratore" , class="http://mia.ontologia#COMPRATORE"} The control mode is appelt. The two rules are similar, the first recognize a seller(Venditore) the second a buyer(Compratore). The first rule recognize a Person followed by a generic number of word then the word "vende". The second is equal, but the last word is "compra". I try to annotate this "BATTISTELLA ANNA cede e vende al sig. GREATTI FRANCO che accetta e acquista un appartamento" in this there are buyer and seller. The first rule must annotate "BATTISTELLA ANNA cede e vende" like seller but the result of the annotation is only BATTISTELLA ANNA == "buyer" because in the phrase there is the word "acquista", but there is also "vende". But if I annotate only "BATTISTELLA ANNA cede e vende" the result is correct. I think the problem is the range of word that the operator * use. Thanks and regards. From philip.alexiev at sirma.bg Mon Oct 19 06:39:24 2009 From: philip.alexiev at sirma.bg (Philip Alexiev) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:39:24 +0300 Subject: [Kim-discussion] Regarding KIM-JAVA In-Reply-To: <51d036b90910172200m5f377ea7y229b1d3d0e5b0b49@mail.gmail.com> References: <51d036b90910152348g36b992b3nadbea7e68f110c9b@mail.gmail.com> <4AD842E4.7040209@ontotext.com> <51d036b90910172200m5f377ea7y229b1d3d0e5b0b49@mail.gmail.com> Message-ID: <4ADC41DC.5060407@sirma.bg> Hello Nik, Nice to hear about your progress. 1. The information extraction process is ontology aware. That means the annotations are mapped against classes and instances from the ontology in KIM. The "inst" feature holds the URI of the instance and the "class" feature holds the URI of the class of this instance in the ontology. 2. KIM uses Sesame (http://www.openrdf.org/) for storing it's RDF data. On first run, Sesame is initialized with RDF resources described in its config file - sesame.conf . In order to load your KB you have to modify the "imports" and "defaultNS" parameters. Greetings, Philip On 10/18/2009 08:00 AM, nram028 nram028 wrote: > Hello Philip > Thanks alot for your help, I have gone through the documents and the > examples and have managed to start creating the application. > There were couple of things I wasnt sure about: > 1. The annotations that are retrived are put in the Annotation set. > There annotations contains features that we can save into > KIMfeaturesMap, and one of its fields are instances and the other is > class. Do you know what these are? > 2. Also, I have my own Knowledge base and the Kim server has its own > KB, so I would like to use my own KB, how can I do that? > If you know anything about this, I would really appreciate the help. > Thanks again. > Nikhil > > 2009/10/16 Philip Alexiev > > > Hello Nik, > > I will try to be as helpful as possible. > > Our public documentation is available at > http://www.ontotext.com/kim/docs.html > > Probably the most useful for a developer to use as a reference is > the system documentation at > http://www.ontotext.com/kim/doc/sys-doc/HomePage.html > > You will find useful examples most of the functionality you will > need to use at http://www.ontotext.com/kim/doc/sys-doc/Examples.html > > Generally KIM is used to annotate a given corpus of documents, and > later perform searches on them. Your case is a little different as > you have to annotate the document on the fly. What you need is to > give KIM a document and retrieve it with the annotations. This is > a simple example of this functionality: > http://www.ontotext.com/kim/doc/sys-doc/AnnotateDocumentsAndTextsExamples.html > > After that you will have to visualize the document with formatted > annotations. If you won't use KIM's web interface, you will have > to handle the annotations yourself. Each annotation has start and > end offset in the documents content, which you'll use for the purpose. > > Greetings, > Philip > > > > On 10/16/2009 09:48 AM, nram028 nram028 wrote: > > Hi > > I am a student and am very new to the KIM platform. I have > some doubts about KIM, so it would be really great if you > could give me some help on it. > I have to create an application using JAVA/C#, and need to use > KIM in it. > To be exact the application has to open a text document and > use the KIM knowledge database and highlight the words that it > found in the text document. > I am familiar with java and c#, but not so much with KIM, so > please tell me how should I go about it... Where can I find > the KIM API, how can I import the kim package in the > application and use the provided classes/methods to match my > needs... > > Any kind of help will do. Thanks in advance. > > Nik > > > -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From philip.alexiev at sirma.bg Mon Oct 19 09:01:53 2009 From: philip.alexiev at sirma.bg (Philip Alexiev) Date: Mon, 19 Oct 2009 16:01:53 +0300 Subject: [Kim-discussion] Kim problem In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: <4ADC6341.60301@sirma.bg> Hello, The reason for this behavior is the way Appelt mode works. This is a quote from the GATE Jape documentation about appelt mode: "From all the rules that match a region of the document starting at some point X, the one which matches the longest region is fired. " Maybe you should use the "first" control style for these specific rules. You can find some more documentation at GATE's website (http://gate.ac.uk/sale/tao/) and more specifically at http://gate.ac.uk/sale/tao/splitch7.html#sec:jape:priority Greetings, Philip On 10/19/2009 01:30 PM, ipinkfloyd at inwind.it wrote: > Hi all, > > thanks for the interest to the relation framework. I'd to know if the framework has been released. > I have a problem with two jape rules. > > Rule: VenditoreSecondo > > ( > ((PERSONA)|(PERSONACC)):vendesecondo > > ({Token.kind == word})* > > ({Token.string =="vende"}) > ) --> > :vendesecondo.Person ={rule = "VenditoreSecondo" , class="http://mia.ontologia#VENDITORE"} > > > > Rule: Compratore > > ( > ((PERSONA)|(PERSONACC)):compra > > ({Token.kind == word})* > > ({Token.string =="compra"}|{Token.string =="acquista"}) > ) --> > :compra.Person ={rule = "Compratore" , class="http://mia.ontologia#COMPRATORE"} > > The control mode is appelt. > > The two rules are similar, the first recognize a seller(Venditore) the second a buyer(Compratore). > The first rule recognize a Person followed by a generic number of word then the word "vende". > The second is equal, but the last word is "compra". > > I try to annotate this > > "BATTISTELLA ANNA cede e vende al sig. GREATTI FRANCO che accetta e acquista un appartamento" > > in this there are buyer and seller. The first rule must annotate "BATTISTELLA ANNA cede e vende" like seller > but the result of the annotation is only BATTISTELLA ANNA == "buyer" because in the phrase there is the word "acquista", but there is also "vende". > > But if I annotate only "BATTISTELLA ANNA cede e vende" the result is correct. I think the problem is the range of word that the operator * use. > > Thanks and regards. > > > _______________________________________________ > Kim-discussion mailing list > Kim-discussion at ontotext.com > http://ontotext.com/mailman/listinfo/kim-discussion > > From julievimbai at yahoo.com.au Fri Oct 30 08:54:20 2009 From: julievimbai at yahoo.com.au (Juliet Gwenzi) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 05:54:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Kim-discussion] Using KIM in the geospatial domain Message-ID: <433370.62698.qm@web30604.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear KIM users Can someone help me with the following?issues I am carrying out a reserach "Enhancing Spatial Web search with Semantic Web technology and Metadata Visualalisation" It will be first time to use an Annotation Platform and actually the topic itself is new to me ? ? 1.What I have done is to be build an ontology using Prot?g? (OWL-Plugin). Will I be able to import this into the KIM platform so that I don?t have to repeat what I have already done. ? 2. Secondly I need to have Semantic Annotations in the spatial domain of the concepts I have in the ontology. I will implement them in GeoNetwork opensource which is a standard based and decentralised spatial information management system, designed to enable access to geo-referenced databases and cartographic products from a variety of data providers through descriptive metadata, enhancing the spatial information exchange and sharing between organisations and their audience, using the capacities and the power of the Internet. The idea is to allow users to retain the most relevant information with a shift from key-word based search but also to take advantage of underlying concepts. Now with regards to KIM it has not tey been implemented in the Spatial domain will this help me achieve my goal. ? 3. Does KIM come with a step by step tutorial which I can follow so I get acquainted to the tool before I use it for my own work with ease? I have looked at the documentation and so far it has not been easy for me to follow. Juliet Gwenzi ITC Mailbox Number 389 Hengelosestraat 99 P. O. Box 6 7500 AA Enschede The Netherlands Mobile:??+31?647 271 542 Land??????+31?534?803?999? Email:?julievimbai at yahoo.com.au ????????? gwenzi21943 at itc.nl __________________________________________________________________________________ Get more done like never before with Yahoo!7 Mail. Learn more: http://au.overview.mail.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anton.andreev at ontotext.com Fri Oct 30 09:52:21 2009 From: anton.andreev at ontotext.com (Anton Andreev) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 15:52:21 +0200 Subject: [Kim-discussion] KIM development?? In-Reply-To: <8832A0ECAB45CB48A800A4CDBA3FF09F0D7A50C662@itcnt27.itc.nl> References: <8832A0ECAB45CB48A800A4CDBA3FF09F0D7A50C660@itcnt27.itc.nl> <4AEAB936.6010008@ontotext.com> <8832A0ECAB45CB48A800A4CDBA3FF09F0D7A50C662@itcnt27.itc.nl> Message-ID: <4AEAEF95.4090502@ontotext.com> Hello Juliet, 1. KIM supports standard OWL, so you should not have any problems. Please use the latest version of Protege. Some of our team members use simply notepad/emacs and then they validate their Ontology with: http://www.mygrid.org.uk/OWL/Validator 2. Well, I can not think of a project using KIM in the spatial domain, but I do not see any obstacles in doing so. I would suggest that you go ahead with you project using KIM. 3. I myself am building a KIM/GATE tutorial: http://debian.fmi.uni-sofia.bg/~toncho/myblog/archives/256-KIMGATE-Getting-Started-part-1.html There are more posts to come. Please tell us if you find it useful. -- Best regards, Anton Andreev email: anton.andreev at ontotext.com Account Manager at Ontotext www.ontotext.com Juliet Gwenzi wrote: > Dear Anton > > Sorry that I have to bug you with a lot of question, I have subscribed to the mailing list but ihave received confirmation yet to that effect. > > It will be first time to use an Annotation Platform and actually the topic itself is new to me (Enhancing Spatial Web Search with Semantic Web Technology and Metadata Visualisation) > > 1.What I have done is to be build an ontology using Prot?g? (OWL-Plugin). Will I be able to import this into the KIM platform so that I don't have to repeat what I have already done. > > > 2. Secondly I need to have Semantic Annotations in the spatial domain of the concepts I have in the ontology. I will implement them in GeoNetwork opensource which is a standard based and decentralised spatial information management system, designed to enable access to geo-referenced databases and cartographic products from a variety of data providers through descriptive metadata, enhancing the spatial information exchange and sharing between organisations and their audience, using the capacities and the power of the Internet. The idea is to allow users to retain the most relevant information with a shift from key-word based search but also to take advantage of underlying concepts. > > Now with regards to KIM it has not tey been implemented in the Spatial domain will this help me achieve my goal. > > > 3. Does KIM come with a step by step tutorial which I can follow so I get acquainted to the tool before I use it for my own work with ease? I have looked at the documentation and so it has not been easy for me to follow. > > Looking forward to hearing from you again > > Regards > > Juliet > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Anton Andreev [mailto:anton.andreev at ontotext.com] > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:00 AM > To: Juliet Gwenzi > Cc: 'kim-registration at ontotext.com ' > Subject: Re: KIM development?? > > Dear Juliet, > > You could download the latest version of the KIM Platform at: > http://ontotext.com/kim/kim-install.html > > You will find KIM documentation and installation details at: > http://ontotext.com/kim/doc/sys-doc/Installation.html > > As you might have seen from the license - KIM is free for evaluation and research purposes. Our intention is to provide it for free for development purposes as well, although this is not explicitly stated in the current license. Commercial license is also available and comes with support from Ontotext. > > We do provide different services on top of KIM, since with this level of complexity you never get an off-the-shelf product. > > It would be great if you can share a bit more information about the applications of KIM that you have in mind, so that we can recommend architecture, configuration, etc. > > We recommend you to subscribe for KIM-discussion and interested-in-KIM mailing lists at: http://www.ontotext.com/kim/mailing-lists-info.html. > > The KIM-discussion mailing list is more of a technical type and it is available as public archive at: > http://www.mail-archive.com/kim-discussion at ontotext.com/maillist.html > > If you have any further questions, do not hesitate to contact us at: > KIM-info at ontotext.com. > > We will greatly appreciate your feedback. > > -- > Best regards, > Anton Andreev > email: anton.andreev at ontotext.com > Account Manager at Ontotext > www.ontotext.com > > From julievimbai at yahoo.com.au Fri Oct 30 12:39:05 2009 From: julievimbai at yahoo.com.au (Juliet Gwenzi) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:39:05 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Kim-discussion] KIM Installation problems In-Reply-To: <4AEAEF95.4090502@ontotext.com> References: <8832A0ECAB45CB48A800A4CDBA3FF09F0D7A50C660@itcnt27.itc.nl> <4AEAB936.6010008@ontotext.com> <8832A0ECAB45CB48A800A4CDBA3FF09F0D7A50C662@itcnt27.itc.nl> <4AEAEF95.4090502@ontotext.com> Message-ID: <600950.84087.qm@web30607.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Dear users ? I have tried to install KIM but have hit a snag on the Java. I changed the path as required but I get an error saying the the path doesn?t point to a Java Installation. I am not sure what I should have done. ? For the JDK file I created a folder called JDK in C and so in the Java?Home path I give it as %C:JDK% but that has failed to work. Note that i had to create a folder called JDK because direct installtion into defaultt path in C: Progrma Files failed to work. i kept getting an error that the folder does not exist. ? How do I proceed now. ? Juliet Gwenzi ITC Mailbox Number 389 Hengelosestraat 99 P. O. Box 6 7500 AA Enschede The Netherlands Mobile:??+31?647 271 542 Land??????+31?534?803?999? Email:?julievimbai at yahoo.com.au ????????? gwenzi21943 at itc.nl Becoming like Jesus is a marathon not a sprint ________________________________ __________________________________________________________________________________ Get more done like never before with Yahoo!7 Mail. Learn more: http://au.overview.mail.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From anton.andreev at ontotext.com Fri Oct 30 12:40:56 2009 From: anton.andreev at ontotext.com (Anton Andreev) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 18:40:56 +0200 Subject: [Kim-discussion] KIM Installation failure In-Reply-To: <8832A0ECAB45CB48A800A4CDBA3FF09F0D7A50C664@itcnt27.itc.nl> References: <8832A0ECAB45CB48A800A4CDBA3FF09F0D7A50C660@itcnt27.itc.nl> <4AEAB936.6010008@ontotext.com> <8832A0ECAB45CB48A800A4CDBA3FF09F0D7A50C662@itcnt27.itc.nl> <4AEAEF95.4090502@ontotext.com> <8832A0ECAB45CB48A800A4CDBA3FF09F0D7A50C664@itcnt27.itc.nl> Message-ID: <4AEB1718.1010702@ontotext.com> Hello Juliet, You need a working JDK installation. In the kim\bin\config_machine.bat point to your JDK installation like this: set _JAVA_HOME=C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_14 You better use full path names than variables. Make sure you have Java available in your path: This is done in Windows: System Properties->Advanced->Environment variables(at the bottom right)->System Variables-> Select "Path" from the list and append something like that ";C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_16\bin". Folders are separated by ";". where "C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_16\bin" is the directory that points to "java.exe" -- Best regards, Anton Andreev email: anton.andreev at ontotext.com Account Manager at Ontotext www.ontotext.com Juliet Gwenzi wrote: > Hello Anton > > Back to you again. I have tried to install KIM but have hit a snag on the Java. I changed the path as required but I get an error saying the the path doesn't point to a Java Installation. I ma not sure what I should have done. > > For the JDK file I created a folder called JDK in C and so in the Home path I give it as %c:JDK% but that has failed to work > > How do I proceed now. > > I appreciate your help > > Regards > > Juliet > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Anton Andreev [mailto:anton.andreev at ontotext.com] > Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:52 PM > To: Juliet Gwenzi > Cc: [KIM-discussion] > Subject: Re: KIM development?? > > Hello Juliet, > > 1. KIM supports standard OWL, so you should not have any problems. > Please use the latest version of Protege. > Some of our team members use simply notepad/emacs and then they validate their Ontology with: > http://www.mygrid.org.uk/OWL/Validator > > 2. Well, I can not think of a project using KIM in the spatial domain, but I do not see any obstacles in doing so. I would suggest that you go ahead with you project using KIM. > > 3. I myself am building a KIM/GATE tutorial: > http://debian.fmi.uni-sofia.bg/~toncho/myblog/archives/256-KIMGATE-Getting-Started-part-1.html > There are more posts to come. Please tell us if you find it useful. > > -- > Best regards, > Anton Andreev > email: anton.andreev at ontotext.com > Account Manager at Ontotext > www.ontotext.com > > > > > Juliet Gwenzi wrote: > >> Dear Anton >> >> Sorry that I have to bug you with a lot of question, I have subscribed to the mailing list but ihave received confirmation yet to that effect. >> >> It will be first time to use an Annotation Platform and actually the topic itself is new to me (Enhancing Spatial Web Search with Semantic Web Technology and Metadata Visualisation) >> >> 1.What I have done is to be build an ontology using Prot?g? (OWL-Plugin). Will I be able to import this into the KIM platform so that I don't have to repeat what I have already done. >> >> >> 2. Secondly I need to have Semantic Annotations in the spatial domain of the concepts I have in the ontology. I will implement them in GeoNetwork opensource which is a standard based and decentralised spatial information management system, designed to enable access to geo-referenced databases and cartographic products from a variety of data providers through descriptive metadata, enhancing the spatial information exchange and sharing between organisations and their audience, using the capacities and the power of the Internet. The idea is to allow users to retain the most relevant information with a shift from key-word based search but also to take advantage of underlying concepts. >> >> Now with regards to KIM it has not tey been implemented in the Spatial domain will this help me achieve my goal. >> >> >> 3. Does KIM come with a step by step tutorial which I can follow so I get acquainted to the tool before I use it for my own work with ease? I have looked at the documentation and so it has not been easy for me to follow. >> >> Looking forward to hearing from you again >> >> Regards >> >> Juliet >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Anton Andreev [mailto:anton.andreev at ontotext.com] >> Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:00 AM >> To: Juliet Gwenzi >> Cc: 'kim-registration at ontotext.com ' >> Subject: Re: KIM development?? >> >> Dear Juliet, >> >> You could download the latest version of the KIM Platform at: >> http://ontotext.com/kim/kim-install.html >> >> You will find KIM documentation and installation details at: >> http://ontotext.com/kim/doc/sys-doc/Installation.html >> >> As you might have seen from the license - KIM is free for evaluation and research purposes. Our intention is to provide it for free for development purposes as well, although this is not explicitly stated in the current license. Commercial license is also available and comes with support from Ontotext. >> >> We do provide different services on top of KIM, since with this level of complexity you never get an off-the-shelf product. >> >> It would be great if you can share a bit more information about the applications of KIM that you have in mind, so that we can recommend architecture, configuration, etc. >> >> We recommend you to subscribe for KIM-discussion and interested-in-KIM mailing lists at: http://www.ontotext.com/kim/mailing-lists-info.html. >> >> The KIM-discussion mailing list is more of a technical type and it is available as public archive at: >> http://www.mail-archive.com/kim-discussion at ontotext.com/maillist.html >> >> If you have any further questions, do not hesitate to contact us at: >> KIM-info at ontotext.com. >> >> We will greatly appreciate your feedback. >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Anton Andreev >> email: anton.andreev at ontotext.com >> Account Manager at Ontotext >> www.ontotext.com >> >> >> > > > From julievimbai at yahoo.com.au Fri Oct 30 13:35:20 2009 From: julievimbai at yahoo.com.au (Juliet Gwenzi) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:35:20 -0700 (PDT) Subject: [Kim-discussion] access to ws In-Reply-To: <4AEB1718.1010702@ontotext.com> References: <8832A0ECAB45CB48A800A4CDBA3FF09F0D7A50C660@itcnt27.itc.nl> <4AEAB936.6010008@ontotext.com> <8832A0ECAB45CB48A800A4CDBA3FF09F0D7A50C662@itcnt27.itc.nl> <4AEAEF95.4090502@ontotext.com> <8832A0ECAB45CB48A800A4CDBA3FF09F0D7A50C664@itcnt27.itc.nl> <4AEB1718.1010702@ontotext.com> Message-ID: <800658.79718.qm@web30602.mail.mud.yahoo.com> I have managed to install KIM and was trying tutorial 0 but i cant access the link below and others with similar path. What could be the problem again? ?http://localhost:8080/kim-ws-api/ ? Juliet Gwenzi ITC Mailbox Number 389 Hengelosestraat 99 P. O. Box 6 7500 AA Enschede The Netherlands Mobile:??+31?647 271 542 Land??????+31?534?803?999? Email:?julievimbai at yahoo.com.au ????????? gwenzi21943 at itc.nl ________________________________ From: Anton Andreev To: Juliet Gwenzi Cc: [KIM-discussion] Sent: Fri, 30 October, 2009 5:40:56 PM Subject: Re: [Kim-discussion] KIM Installation failure Hello Juliet, You need a working JDK installation. In the kim\bin\config_machine.bat point to your JDK installation like this: set _JAVA_HOME=C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_14 You better use full path names than variables. Make sure you have Java available in your path: This is done in Windows: System Properties->Advanced->Environment variables(at the bottom right)->System Variables-> Select "Path" from the list and append something like that ";C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_16\bin". Folders are separated by ";". where "C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_16\bin" is the directory that points to "java.exe" -- Best regards, Anton Andreev email: anton.andreev at ontotext.com Account Manager at Ontotext www.ontotext.com Juliet Gwenzi wrote: > Hello Anton > > Back to you again. I have tried to install KIM but have hit a snag on the Java. I changed the path as required but I get an error saying the the path doesn't point to a Java Installation. I ma not sure what I should have done. > > For the JDK file I created a folder called JDK in C and so in the Home path I give it as %c:JDK% but that has failed to work > > How do I proceed now. > I appreciate your help > > Regards > > Juliet > >? > -----Original Message----- > From: Anton Andreev [mailto:anton.andreev at ontotext.com] Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:52 PM > To: Juliet Gwenzi > Cc: [KIM-discussion] > Subject: Re: KIM development?? > > Hello Juliet, > > 1. KIM supports standard OWL, so you should not have any problems. Please use the latest version of Protege. > Some of our team members use simply notepad/emacs and then they validate their Ontology with: > http://www.mygrid.org.uk/OWL/Validator > > 2. Well, I can not think of a project using KIM in the spatial domain, but I do not see any obstacles in doing so. I would suggest that you go ahead with you project using KIM. > > 3. I myself am building a KIM/GATE tutorial: > http://debian.fmi.uni-sofia.bg/~toncho/myblog/archives/256-KIMGATE-Getting-Started-part-1.html > There are more posts to come. Please tell us if you find it useful. > > -- > Best regards, > Anton Andreev > email: anton.andreev at ontotext.com > Account Manager at Ontotext > www.ontotext.com > > > > > Juliet Gwenzi wrote: >? >> Dear Anton >> >> Sorry that I have to bug you with a lot of question, I have subscribed to the mailing list but ihave received confirmation yet to that effect. >> It will be first time to use an Annotation Platform and actually the topic itself is new to me (Enhancing Spatial Web Search with Semantic Web Technology and Metadata Visualisation) >> >> 1.What I have done is to be build an ontology using Prot?g? (OWL-Plugin). Will I be able to import this into the KIM platform so that I don't have to repeat what I have already done. >> >> >> 2. Secondly I need to have Semantic Annotations in the spatial domain of the concepts I have in the ontology. I will implement them in GeoNetwork opensource which is a standard based and decentralised spatial information management system, designed to enable access to geo-referenced databases and cartographic products from a variety of data providers through descriptive metadata, enhancing the spatial information exchange and sharing between organisations and their audience, using the capacities and the power of the Internet. The idea is to allow users to retain the most relevant information with a shift from key-word based search but also to take advantage of underlying concepts. >> Now with regards to KIM it has not tey been implemented in the Spatial domain will this help me achieve my goal. >> >> 3. Does KIM come with a step by step tutorial which I can follow so I get acquainted to the tool before I use it for my own work with ease? I have looked at the documentation and so it has not been easy for me to follow. >> >> Looking forward to hearing from you again >> >> Regards >> >> Juliet >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Anton Andreev [mailto:anton.andreev at ontotext.com] Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:00 AM >> To: Juliet Gwenzi >> Cc: 'kim-registration at ontotext.com ' >> Subject: Re: KIM development?? >> >> Dear Juliet, >> >> You could download the latest version of the KIM Platform at: http://ontotext.com/kim/kim-install.html >> >> You will find KIM documentation and installation details at: http://ontotext.com/kim/doc/sys-doc/Installation.html >> >> As you might have seen from the license - KIM is free for evaluation and research purposes. Our intention is to provide it for free for development purposes as well, although this is not explicitly stated in the current license. Commercial license is also available and comes with support from Ontotext. >> >> We do provide different services on top of KIM, since with this level of complexity you never get an off-the-shelf product. >> >> It would be great if you can share a bit more information about the applications of KIM that you have in mind, so that we can recommend architecture, configuration, etc. >> >> We recommend you to subscribe for KIM-discussion and interested-in-KIM mailing lists at: http://www.ontotext.com/kim/mailing-lists-info.html. >> >> The KIM-discussion mailing list is more of a technical type and it is available as public archive at: http://www.mail-archive.com/kim-discussion at ontotext.com/maillist.html >> >> If you have any further questions, do not hesitate to contact us at: KIM-info at ontotext.com. >> >> We will greatly appreciate your feedback. >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Anton Andreev >> email: anton.andreev at ontotext.com >> Account Manager at Ontotext >> www.ontotext.com >> >>? ? ? > > >? _______________________________________________ Kim-discussion mailing list Kim-discussion at ontotext.com http://ontotext.com/mailman/listinfo/kim-discussion __________________________________________________________________________________ Get more done like never before with Yahoo!7 Mail. 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Box 6 7500 AA Enschede The Netherlands Mobile:??+31?647 271 542 Land??????+31?534?803?999? Email:?julievimbai at yahoo.com.au ????????? gwenzi21943 at itc.nl ________________________________ From: Anton Andreev To: Juliet Gwenzi Cc: [KIM-discussion] Sent: Fri, 30 October, 2009 5:40:56 PM Subject: Re: [Kim-discussion] KIM Installation failure Hello Juliet, You need a working JDK installation. In the kim\bin\config_machine.bat point to your JDK installation like this: set _JAVA_HOME=C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_14 You better use full path names than variables. Make sure you have Java available in your path: This is done in Windows: System Properties->Advanced->Environment variables(at the bottom right)->System Variables-> Select "Path" from the list and append something like that ";C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_16\bin". Folders are separated by ";". where "C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_16\bin" is the directory that points to "java.exe" -- Best regards, Anton Andreev email: anton.andreev at ontotext.com Account Manager at Ontotext www.ontotext.com Juliet Gwenzi wrote: > Hello Anton > > Back to you again. I have tried to install KIM but have hit a snag on the Java. I changed the path as required but I get an error saying the the path doesn't point to a Java Installation. I ma not sure what I should have done. > > For the JDK file I created a folder called JDK in C and so in the Home path I give it as %c:JDK% but that has failed to work > > How do I proceed now. > I appreciate your help > > Regards > > Juliet > >? > -----Original Message----- > From: Anton Andreev [mailto:anton.andreev at ontotext.com] Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:52 PM > To: Juliet Gwenzi > Cc: [KIM-discussion] > Subject: Re: KIM development?? > > Hello Juliet, > > 1. KIM supports standard OWL, so you should not have any problems. Please use the latest version of Protege. > Some of our team members use simply notepad/emacs and then they validate their Ontology with: > http://www.mygrid.org.uk/OWL/Validator > > 2. Well, I can not think of a project using KIM in the spatial domain, but I do not see any obstacles in doing so. I would suggest that you go ahead with you project using KIM. > > 3. I myself am building a KIM/GATE tutorial: > http://debian.fmi.uni-sofia.bg/~toncho/myblog/archives/256-KIMGATE-Getting-Started-part-1.html > There are more posts to come. Please tell us if you find it useful. > > -- > Best regards, > Anton Andreev > email: anton.andreev at ontotext.com > Account Manager at Ontotext > www.ontotext.com > > > > > Juliet Gwenzi wrote: >? >> Dear Anton >> >> Sorry that I have to bug you with a lot of question, I have subscribed to the mailing list but ihave received confirmation yet to that effect. >> It will be first time to use an Annotation Platform and actually the topic itself is new to me (Enhancing Spatial Web Search with Semantic Web Technology and Metadata Visualisation) >> >> 1.What I have done is to be build an ontology using Prot?g? (OWL-Plugin). Will I be able to import this into the KIM platform so that I don't have to repeat what I have already done. >> >> >> 2. Secondly I need to have Semantic Annotations in the spatial domain of the concepts I have in the ontology. I will implement them in GeoNetwork opensource which is a standard based and decentralised spatial information management system, designed to enable access to geo-referenced databases and cartographic products from a variety of data providers through descriptive metadata, enhancing the spatial information exchange and sharing between organisations and their audience, using the capacities and the power of the Internet. The idea is to allow users to retain the most relevant information with a shift from key-word based search but also to take advantage of underlying concepts. >> Now with regards to KIM it has not tey been implemented in the Spatial domain will this help me achieve my goal. >> >> 3. Does KIM come with a step by step tutorial which I can follow so I get acquainted to the tool before I use it for my own work with ease? I have looked at the documentation and so it has not been easy for me to follow. >> >> Looking forward to hearing from you again >> >> Regards >> >> Juliet >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Anton Andreev [mailto:anton.andreev at ontotext.com] Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:00 AM >> To: Juliet Gwenzi >> Cc: 'kim-registration at ontotext.com ' >> Subject: Re: KIM development?? >> >> Dear Juliet, >> >> You could download the latest version of the KIM Platform at: http://ontotext.com/kim/kim-install.html >> >> You will find KIM documentation and installation details at: http://ontotext.com/kim/doc/sys-doc/Installation.html >> >> As you might have seen from the license - KIM is free for evaluation and research purposes. Our intention is to provide it for free for development purposes as well, although this is not explicitly stated in the current license. Commercial license is also available and comes with support from Ontotext. >> >> We do provide different services on top of KIM, since with this level of complexity you never get an off-the-shelf product. >> >> It would be great if you can share a bit more information about the applications of KIM that you have in mind, so that we can recommend architecture, configuration, etc. >> >> We recommend you to subscribe for KIM-discussion and interested-in-KIM mailing lists at: http://www.ontotext.com/kim/mailing-lists-info.html. >> >> The KIM-discussion mailing list is more of a technical type and it is available as public archive at: http://www.mail-archive.com/kim-discussion at ontotext.com/maillist.html >> >> If you have any further questions, do not hesitate to contact us at: KIM-info at ontotext.com. >> >> We will greatly appreciate your feedback. >> >> -- >> Best regards, >> Anton Andreev >> email: anton.andreev at ontotext.com >> Account Manager at Ontotext >> www.ontotext.com >> >>? ? ? > > >? _______________________________________________ Kim-discussion mailing list Kim-discussion at ontotext.com http://ontotext.com/mailman/listinfo/kim-discussion __________________________________________________________________________________ Get more done like never before with Yahoo!7 Mail. Learn more: http://au.overview.mail.yahoo.com/ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From boyan.kukushev at sirma.bg Fri Oct 30 13:57:34 2009 From: boyan.kukushev at sirma.bg (Boyan Kukushev) Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:57:34 +0200 Subject: [Kim-discussion] access to ws In-Reply-To: <13264.77993.qm@web30608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> References: <8832A0ECAB45CB48A800A4CDBA3FF09F0D7A50C660@itcnt27.itc.nl> <4AEB1718.1010702@ontotext.com> <13264.77993.qm@web30608.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <200910301957.34281.boyan.kukushev@sirma.bg> Hi Juliet, The KIM server web applications require a web server to be run on. On that purpose we use the Apache Tomcat web server and we provide three .war files to be deployed in Tomcat. These are: * KIM.war - used to search and view files you have annotated in your server * sesame-web-ui.war - used to access the internals of our semantic repository - Sesame * kim-ws-api.war - required to use the KIM Web Service API All these are placed in the kim-home-directory\KIM Clients and you should copy them to tomcat-home-directory\webapps. Then you run your web server and so on. To get acquainted with the features the KIM server has, you can populate the sample corpus of news documents, placed in kim-home-directory\corpus. To populate the documents, run kim-home-directory\bin\tools\toolPopulate.cmd. For more information on such issues you can always refer to our online documentation: http://ontotext.com/kim/doc/sys-doc/HomePage.html Greetings, Boyan -- Boyan Kukushev Software Engineer / Java Developer Ontotext AD @ Sirma Group Corp. On Fri October 30 2009 19:36:19 Juliet Gwenzi wrote: > I have managed to install KIM and was trying tutorial 0 but i cant access the link below and others with similar path. What could be the problem again? > > ?http://localhost:8080/kim-ws-api/ > > ? > Juliet Gwenzi > ITC > Mailbox Number 389 > Hengelosestraat 99 > P. O. Box 6 > 7500 AA Enschede > The Netherlands > > Mobile:??+31?647 271 542 > Land??????+31?534?803?999? > Email:?julievimbai at yahoo.com.au > ????????? gwenzi21943 at itc.nl > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Anton Andreev > To: Juliet Gwenzi > Cc: [KIM-discussion] > Sent: Fri, 30 October, 2009 5:40:56 PM > Subject: Re: [Kim-discussion] KIM Installation failure > > Hello Juliet, > > You need a working JDK installation. > In the kim\bin\config_machine.bat point to your JDK installation like this: > set _JAVA_HOME=C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_14 > You better use full path names than variables. > > Make sure you have Java available in your path: > This is done in Windows: System Properties->Advanced->Environment variables(at the bottom right)->System Variables-> Select "Path" from the list > and append something like that ";C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_16\bin". Folders are separated by ";". > where "C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.6.0_16\bin" is the directory that points to "java.exe" > > -- Best regards, > Anton Andreev > email: anton.andreev at ontotext.com > Account Manager at Ontotext > www.ontotext.com > > > > > Juliet Gwenzi wrote: > > Hello Anton > > > > Back to you again. I have tried to install KIM but have hit a snag on the Java. I changed the path as required but I get an error saying the the path doesn't point to a Java Installation. I ma not sure what I should have done. > > > > For the JDK file I created a folder called JDK in C and so in the Home path I give it as %c:JDK% but that has failed to work > > > > How do I proceed now. > > I appreciate your help > > > > Regards > > > > Juliet > > > >? > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Anton Andreev [mailto:anton.andreev at ontotext.com] Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 2:52 PM > > To: Juliet Gwenzi > > Cc: [KIM-discussion] > > Subject: Re: KIM development?? > > > > Hello Juliet, > > > > 1. KIM supports standard OWL, so you should not have any problems. Please use the latest version of Protege. > > Some of our team members use simply notepad/emacs and then they validate their Ontology with: > > http://www.mygrid.org.uk/OWL/Validator > > > > 2. Well, I can not think of a project using KIM in the spatial domain, but I do not see any obstacles in doing so. I would suggest that you go ahead with you project using KIM. > > > > 3. I myself am building a KIM/GATE tutorial: > > http://debian.fmi.uni-sofia.bg/~toncho/myblog/archives/256-KIMGATE-Getting-Started-part-1.html > > There are more posts to come. Please tell us if you find it useful. > > > > -- > > Best regards, > > Anton Andreev > > email: anton.andreev at ontotext.com > > Account Manager at Ontotext > > www.ontotext.com > > > > > > > > > > Juliet Gwenzi wrote: > >? > >> Dear Anton > >> > >> Sorry that I have to bug you with a lot of question, I have subscribed to the mailing list but ihave received confirmation yet to that effect. > >> It will be first time to use an Annotation Platform and actually the topic itself is new to me (Enhancing Spatial Web Search with Semantic Web Technology and Metadata Visualisation) > >> > >> 1.What I have done is to be build an ontology using Prot?g? (OWL-Plugin). Will I be able to import this into the KIM platform so that I don't have to repeat what I have already done. > >> > >> > >> 2. Secondly I need to have Semantic Annotations in the spatial domain of the concepts I have in the ontology. I will implement them in GeoNetwork opensource which is a standard based and decentralised spatial information management system, designed to enable access to geo-referenced databases and cartographic products from a variety of data providers through descriptive metadata, enhancing the spatial information exchange and sharing between organisations and their audience, using the capacities and the power of the Internet. The idea is to allow users to retain the most relevant information with a shift from key-word based search but also to take advantage of underlying concepts. > >> Now with regards to KIM it has not tey been implemented in the Spatial domain will this help me achieve my goal. > >> > >> 3. Does KIM come with a step by step tutorial which I can follow so I get acquainted to the tool before I use it for my own work with ease? I have looked at the documentation and so it has not been easy for me to follow. > >> > >> Looking forward to hearing from you again > >> > >> Regards > >> > >> Juliet > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Anton Andreev [mailto:anton.andreev at ontotext.com] Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 11:00 AM > >> To: Juliet Gwenzi > >> Cc: 'kim-registration at ontotext.com ' > >> Subject: Re: KIM development?? > >> > >> Dear Juliet, > >> > >> You could download the latest version of the KIM Platform at: http://ontotext.com/kim/kim-install.html > >> > >> You will find KIM documentation and installation details at: http://ontotext.com/kim/doc/sys-doc/Installation.html > >> > >> As you might have seen from the license - KIM is free for evaluation and research purposes. Our intention is to provide it for free for development purposes as well, although this is not explicitly stated in the current license. Commercial license is also available and comes with support from Ontotext. > >> > >> We do provide different services on top of KIM, since with this level of complexity you never get an off-the-shelf product. > >> > >> It would be great if you can share a bit more information about the applications of KIM that you have in mind, so that we can recommend architecture, configuration, etc. > >> > >> We recommend you to subscribe for KIM-discussion and interested-in-KIM mailing lists at: http://www.ontotext.com/kim/mailing-lists-info.html. > >> > >> The KIM-discussion mailing list is more of a technical type and it is available as public archive at: http://www.mail-archive.com/kim-discussion at ontotext.com/maillist.html > >> > >> If you have any further questions, do not hesitate to contact us at: KIM-info at ontotext.com. > >> > >> We will greatly appreciate your feedback. > >> > >> -- > >> Best regards, > >> Anton Andreev > >> email: anton.andreev at ontotext.com > >> Account Manager at Ontotext > >> www.ontotext.com > >> > >>? ? ? > > > > > >? > > > _______________________________________________ > Kim-discussion mailing list > Kim-discussion at ontotext.com > http://ontotext.com/mailman/listinfo/kim-discussion > > > > __________________________________________________________________________________ > Get more done like never before with Yahoo!7 Mail. > Learn more: http://au.overview.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Boyan Kukushev Software Engineer / Java Developer Ontotext AD @ Sirma Group Corp. From samn.ukm at gmail.com Sat Oct 31 01:43:05 2009 From: samn.ukm at gmail.com (Shahrul Azman Noah) Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 13:43:05 +0800 Subject: [Kim-discussion] Installing and running KIM in Mac Message-ID: <72dbee890910302243o6117ba1em2e6026786362b490@mail.gmail.com> Dear all, Does anybody has experience installing or running KIM in Mac OS X? Thank you Shahrul -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: